Saturday, October 08, 2005

Pandemic or Pandeceit

It appears that the avian flu virus is a pending peril that may pose a greater threat than the Spanish Flu of 1918 (which killed over 50 million worldwide). Due to the threat of the influenza flu virus, our federal government has posed an extensive 381 page plan to quarantine citizens while also restricting travel.

Ethically and constitutionally I am opposed to such measures. However, there is a huge part of me that would desire that cities known to have the virus be quarantined. Unfortunately, that idea would be unfair for those people in that area who are not ineffected which means that quarantining and travel restrictions are absurd. That said, I wonder if our government feels compelled to be proactive in disaster prerelief even if it means submitting such heinous ideas.

I hate that I do not have an answer because I am left only to complain about the proposed response of our current administration. The good news is that we can always pray fervently that such a disaster will never happen....


At 9:00 PM, Blogger Goat said...

s I said ar Perot's I don't think we have reason for hype or panic here stateside.though I could see it getting bad in the cities of thirld world areas "IF" IT MAKES THE LEAP TO HUMAN TRANSMITTAL.There is way to much hype here over,these killer bugs usually kill themselves off pretty quick.It is the insidious ones like AIDS that can hide for years. The Four Horsemen of Revelations are loose and have been for centuries.Our knowledge on how to contain infectious diseases is just a tad bit improved after battles with influenza,measles,scarlet fever,polio,mumps,chickenpox,etc. all these diseases used to wipe out millions on a regular basis.I see it as typical news cycle hype with an open ear and eye.

At 11:46 PM, Blogger William said...

I completely agree with you. I do think that the chances of the human to human transfer are minute. However, the chance of the transfer still should not go overlooked.

Fortunately, we should be fine in America. But, unfortunately, it could be bad for poorer nations.

That said, the chance is still minute.

At 11:59 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Yeppers. I aint skeered. Bring it on.

At 2:17 AM, Blogger Poison Pero said...

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but there will be another pandemic.....Be it this flu or some other. --> And I wish they'd drop the "bird flu" name, because all flu's start with birds.
When I was a Reservist I did a lot of work for the epidemiology department at Luke AFB......particularly the various flu strains.

I currently specialize in pediatric infections and work closely with Phoenix Children's Hospital her in Phoenix.
This is a problem that is as old as mankind, and will continue for our entire existence. --> And there are thousands of flu strain possibilities.

It's doubtful this flu is new, just new to the group of people on the planet at this time.......Therefore there are no known antibodies in those of us living.

There is a known movement in the DNA shift of many flu viruses....They've been watching them for years. The shifts are slow, and usually die off, but some break through, and continue mutating........Considering they have lifespans of less than a day, and the rate of reproduction/mutation the process is much faster than animal/plant mutations......But still slow.
Most healthy people will take it and just get sick (N. America, W. Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan).......The elderly, young and those with chronic illnesses will suffer mightily. --> Luckily we have an incredible healthcare system and will be able to save most.
The real problem is everywhere else.......Africa, S. America, Asia, E. Europe.

These places are shit-holes, and are an epidemiological disaster waiting to happen.......High birth-rates, high death-rates, massive amounts of health issues, terrible filthy, and have pathetic health systems.

When the bug comes, and I admit it may not be this year......But when it does, it will be Biblical.
So, back to the question: What do we do.

We do not quarantine Americans....We treat them, we stress handwashing and avoiding sick people (just as we always do with any other flu), and hopefully we find a vaccine.

We keep foreigners out, until they've passed health screening.

We tell Americans travelling to areas of high infection they will be subject to passing health screening as well.......Don't go, if you don't want to deal with this.
And we can't minimize the reality of the flu's we do have........Here in the U.S. we have an average of 36,000 people die each year from the flu and 114,000 per year are hospitalized, according to the CDC. --> That's every year, in the cleanest, most advanced country in the world.

I've taken part in these studies, and can tell you these numbers are low.

There are plenty of people who claim these numbers are false....Because they screw around with the cause of death. --> Many don't die from the flu, they die from pneumonia, or complications of their chronic illnesses........But it is the flu that cause the hyper-escalation of these causes of death, and the flu is the real killer.
These deaths are from EXISTING FLU STRAINS.......One's we've battled before.

Make no mistake, WHEN a new strain arrives there will be many more!!!

At 11:22 PM, Blogger Goat said...

Perot,you should post that at your site.Your best comment yet.

At 7:42 PM, Blogger William said...

Yes, Pero, that was definitely a good post and perspective. My hope is that you are incorrect about us being due for a pandemic. Yet, I fear that you are not....

At 10:11 PM, Blogger Poison Pero said...

I'm afraid I am very right, William.

As far as putting something like this on my site, I've already sent 2 posts about the little SOB (flu).

I rarely do large single topic posts (I've given the reasons before), but I got rolling here.

At 6:00 PM, Blogger Cabe said...

Normally I would let capitalism run it's course and fix the problem, but LOOK AT THE PRICE OF GAS! Lol, because of Clinton capitalism is ruptured. The philosophy of capitalism used to be "if there is a demand, flood it with goods," sadly that philosophy is all but dead. Looking back at the polio crisis, it was nearly the same cituation as is about to happen. I do fear.

At 11:43 PM, Blogger Toad734 said...

It's inevitable. Quarantine worked with Ebola.


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